Comments on: The trouble with successful methodologies http://morgane.com/2006/04/29/the-trouble-with-successful-methodologies/ All over the world Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:36:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Dave Nicolette http://morgane.com/2006/04/29/the-trouble-with-successful-methodologies/#comment-119 Dave Nicolette Tue, 02 May 2006 18:17:47 +0000 http://morgane.com/?p=195#comment-119 I wonder if Kevin and I work at the same company, and just didn't know it. He describes our management's mentality about agile to a T. I wonder if Kevin and I work at the same company, and just didn’t know it. He describes our management’s mentality about agile to a T.

]]> By: Julio Santos http://morgane.com/2006/04/29/the-trouble-with-successful-methodologies/#comment-118 Julio Santos Mon, 01 May 2006 20:08:33 +0000 http://morgane.com/?p=195#comment-118 > ‘Certified Scrum Master’ is pretty much Ken’s idea of a joke That's good news! Though I wonder how many people stress the fact that it is indeed meant as a joke. I know I didn't get the joke, though my excuse is that I never looked too closely. Good to know though. Thanks. > ‘Certified Scrum Master’ is pretty much Ken’s idea of a joke

That’s good news! Though I wonder how many people stress the fact that it is indeed meant as a joke. I know I didn’t get the joke, though my excuse is that I never looked too closely.

Good to know though. Thanks.

]]> By: Ed Gibbs http://morgane.com/2006/04/29/the-trouble-with-successful-methodologies/#comment-117 Ed Gibbs Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:19:44 +0000 http://morgane.com/?p=195#comment-117 Having attended one of those ScrumMaster training courses I can say pretty faithfully that the 'Certified Scrum Master' is pretty much Ken's idea of a joke on the silliness of certifications. He points out that there isn't even a test, and that he can't tell you how to best apply Scrum in your shop. Heck, it's really only a lightweight set of project management practices. RUP is of course a different story. Having attended one of those ScrumMaster training courses I can say pretty faithfully that the ‘Certified Scrum Master’ is pretty much Ken’s idea of a joke on the silliness of certifications. He points out that there isn’t even a test, and that he can’t tell you how to best apply Scrum in your shop. Heck, it’s really only a lightweight set of project management practices.

RUP is of course a different story.

]]> By: Kevin http://morgane.com/2006/04/29/the-trouble-with-successful-methodologies/#comment-116 Kevin Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:37:59 +0000 http://morgane.com/?p=195#comment-116 > Why would a company, for example, insist on iterative development with short iterations, and at the same time, insist that the scope of the project to be fully defined, 100% clarified, before implementation starts. I believe this is the fourth category ... and the worst one of all : Agile methodologies would work better if only they did a their planning up front. It's a misguided attempt to address the 'weaknesses' of the methodology. To be sure, there are plenty of companies that want to their products to display the "Made with Agility" logo - but it's more likely, IMO, that they want to improve on Agile by adding the things it is missing - like detailed specifications, plans and designs prepared and reviewed before any coding starts. > Why would a company, for example, insist on iterative development with short iterations, and at the same time, insist that the scope of the project to be fully defined, 100% clarified, before implementation starts.

I believe this is the fourth category … and the worst one of all :

Agile methodologies would work better if only they did a their planning up front.

It’s a misguided attempt to address the ‘weaknesses’ of the methodology.

To be sure, there are plenty of companies that want to their products to display the “Made with Agility” logo - but it’s more likely, IMO, that they want to improve on Agile by adding the things it is missing - like detailed specifications, plans and designs prepared and reviewed before any coding starts.

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